. It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. [39], The plan was to secretly build up an army of twenty thousand trained skaa soldiers in the Arguois caverns while at the same time causing confusion and distrust in the nobility to cause a house war. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. The Lord Ruler was just too powerful and him trying to run would've destroyed any of the rebellion he was trying to build. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. Despite his disapproval of Kelsiers actions, Marsh is still willing to infiltrate the Steel Ministry as part of Kelsiers plan. The Inquisitors' eyespikes poked out the back. That resulted in the Kelsier skin . After being betrayed by his wife Mare on a job stealing from the Lord Ruler, Kelsier is sent to the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium geodes, one of the most sought-after Allomantic metals. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. When he reaches their base, he moved past their guards and passed the wall into their chambers. Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. He does this in order to fight the Lord Ruler's oppression of all the skaa, wanting to have one thing which cannot be taken away from him. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. [53][54] He used this opportunity to tell Spook to send a message to Vin, warning her that any spiked person could potentially be under Ruin's control. As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, she is in a casual relationship with Wayne. Wayne is also a twinborn; his skills are Slider (creating speed bubbles) and Bloodmaker (he can store health in his metalminds in order to help facilitate healing). The spike is not coming with you when your Cognitive separates from the body. Kelsier did get metal as a Cognitive Shadow in the form of the bolt from Nazh and Khriss' chair. He then asked Preservation if they are God, and after being told yes he promptly punched Preservation in the face. You can use this to quickly reference who the various players are, in case youve forgotten. I am hope. Ironeyes(fka Marsh): Marsh was Kelsiers brother. [8] He also hates how much Kelsier goes against his Intent, bringing about massive societal change in how he brought about the death of the Lord Ruler, and played into Ruin's plans. We do it because we want to. Kelsier has also been keeping himself busy by interfering with Roshar (the world in which The Stormlight Archive is set). While held in an Elendel jail, Suit was visited by a mysterious creature with red eyes. Whats the point? Its central tenet is simply to survive, by any means, until you cannot survive any longer. What are you actually theorizing. [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. Mister Suit had been captured and possibly killed, but Lady Sequence (Telsin) had escaped, and there are rumblings of more devious plots afoot something to do with the kandra who are working for the Set, and Trell. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. Then he killed the noble Lord Renoux and let OreSeur impersonate him. Some of the Survivor's less pleasant traits include his ruthlessness and prejudice. [63] The Ghostbloods believe Kelsier to still have his Allomantic abilities,[64] and he appears to be playing into this lie.[32]. Cause I see what could be considered3 different theories in this one post. I want to know if it is relevant, because when things are relevant, they become not just interesting and thought provoking, but actually important. In their hunt for a kandras missing spike, they travel to New Seran, then to Dulsing, then finally to the Sovereigns Temple. Here, they discover that Waxs sister Telsin is still alive and a member of the Set. In The Final Empire it can be argued that Vin represents the reader of the book as she is constantly in awe and has a great amount of respect for Kelsier.The reader is able to learn about the world, the magic and the other characters through the eyes of Vin, and because of this, we admire Kelsier, holding him up to almost a supernatural standard. [33] As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. It all kind of depends on that. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. Gemmel frequently put Kelsier into life and death situations in order to push him to learn how to use his powers. Shes also written one novel and is working on several more. This was changed by Vin who fell in love with Elend Venture. After Elendel was saved, Kelsier talked with Harmony, asking him to lead Scadrial into a new technological and Metalborn age so they may be better prepared for future threats and Autonomy's return.[22]. We do it because we want to. I wonder if there's a way to make hemalurgy permanent. Most of the information in this article has been culled from The Coppermind, the definitive Sanderson knowledge base on the internet. He is presumably the founding member of the Ghostbloods, a secret society investigating the Cosmere and ways to travel between all the different worlds. Mistborn Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Kelsier is Vins mentor and teaches her to use her Allomantic abilities. He also ran into Vin and was shocked to see how far she had come in the time he was away. TLR was being spiked by the rebels and then into Kelsier. You cant discuss a theory with only the people who agree with it. Before his death, Kelsier had tried to unlock the potential of the 11th metal, which was rumored to be the Lord Ruler's weakness. Waxillium Ladrian was a direct descendant of a close associate of Kelsier, Edgard Ladrian. Though Vin initially is wary and suspicious of him, she eventually learns to trust him, and he becomes somewhat of a father figure to her. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . Our Privacy Notice has been updated to explain how we use cookies, which you accept by continuing to use this website. Kelsier's legacy continues to influence people all across the five dominances. Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm and met Preservation. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. It is assumed that, based on his experience as a Misting crew leader that staged increasingly daring heists, he had broken into the Ministry building of Urteau and discovered the secret in the storage cache). It gains its Hemalurgic charge as soon as it touches moving blood. He was dead anyways. Kelsier locates this skaa, whose name was Vin. [42] While he was in the Well, Hoid passed by and Kelsier essentially challenges him to a fight that Kelsier ultimately loses. Shadows of Self begins with Wax now working in conjunction with the Elendel constabulary. In the process, he tells the skaa to flee to the Terris settlement at the Pits of Hathsin should troubles. A Steel Inquisitor had been present, discovering Vin's Allomancy. The Southern Scadrians had existed with no interaction with the Final Empire, but when Harmony changed the world, they could not adapt and began to die off. Dockson once again became Kelsier's organizer and right hand man. His most prominent trademark is the multitude of long scars running down his arms, a memento of time spent in the Pits of Hathsin. [71] He was hours away near Southern Scadrian when Telsin planned to send a bomb on Elendel, and tasked Moonlight, TwinSoul, and Marasi to take care of it. It's the same power, after all. If youre looking to learn even more, I highly recommend that you check it outthere are also chapter-by-chapter recaps of the books if youd like to do a more thorough deep dive into the Mistborn series! At the end of TheBands of Mourning, she was shot several times but retained a metalmind and escaped. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! At the end of the book, Waxillium Ladrian is given a feruchemic coin by Hoid which stores the memory of a man with one eye and one hemalurgic spike, with arms covered in scars. We were having a nice, thought provoking discussion, and you added nothing to it. It requires the physical anchor of the spike. He was the one who organized, the one who took all of the wild brainstorming and turned it into a viable operation. He offered to teach her about gold and atium, gave her the money he took from Camon, and allowed her to leave, as he didn't want to force anybody into his crew. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. At the beginning of the novella, Kelsier is killed by the Lord Ruler, but refuses to pass on to the Beyond, and instead becomes trapped in the Cognitive Realm, between the Physical and Spiritual realm. Kelsier is a fully trained Mistborn, despite his half-noble half-skaa ancestry. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. The Well of Ascension: The impossible task has been accomplished. [57] His bones survived the Ascension of Harmony,[58] and may have helped him regain physical form.[59]. One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. He has a spike through his eye at the end of BoM. The Lost Metal is looming large on the horizon (its out in two weeks! Kelsier later said that "he had more Money than he could Spend" however, after a failed attempt at stealing from the Lord Ruler in his secret room inside Kredik Shaw, he was sent to the atium mines in the Pits of Hathsin. The Final Empire: Mistborn Book 1. In his interactions with them, he goes by another name you might recognize if youre a Stormlight fan Thaidakar. Alloy of Law served mostly to introduce us to the main characters (and we will go into each of them in more depth below). Once their army was trained and the houses grew unstable enough, they would send a part of their army to attack the Pits of Hathsin, forcing the garrison of Luthadel to go and defend the Pits. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). I dont think the head matters. I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. Of course, it was nothing compared to The Hero of the Ages. They secure the Bands, but hand them off to the kandra for safe-keeping and broker a trade deal with the mysterious Southern Scadrians. Even with the strongest criminal team ever put together, Kel's scheme appears to be the absolute long shot. When he arrived in Luthadel, he first reunited with his old partner and best friend Dockson. While initially hostile, in the end Kelsier's brother Marsh joined, and together the crew developed a plan to defeat the Final Empire. When Kelsier was in the Cognitive Realm after his release, he often would show up to him in order to mock him and his inability to do anything. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. I decided that Id see [Mare's] dream fullled. The skaa react to Kelsier's death by rising up and overthrowing the city with the help of Kelsier's army. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. In addition, Kelsier is a competent warrior, defeating multiple Hazekillers and Mistings while outnumbered and disarmed. As the Sovereign, Kelsier ruled the Southern Scadrians for a time and formed another religion that deified Metalborn, and then he left. But was that truly the end of his tale? Though he is killed by the Lord Ruler, he watches over Vin as a Cognitive Shadow. We dont haveto do this. As punishment, Kelsier was sent to the the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium for the Lord Ruler. Vin also became a major religious figure in the wake of his death, as the Survivorists consider her Kelsier's heir. [3] He appears to be using the Ghostbloods to find a way for him to leave Scadrial and is very interested in learning from the Heralds, particularly Kalak, as they are subject to a similar restriction. [65] As a Pathian, Wax did not worship Kelsier, but his life has nonetheless been drastically affected by the Survivor. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. And you kind of responded with a lot of hate there. From the skaa in Keep Shezler he heard rumors of the Eleventh metal. He claims that he smiles solely because laughter is the only thing that the Lord Ruler cannot take from him. He takes up the Shard of Preservation following Leras' death and sends a round-about message to Marsh in the hope that his brother will remove Vin's earring. For one of them, Kelsier's crew planned to steal the Lord Ruler's atium cache, which they believed lay hidden in Kredik Shaw. To view an earlier version of the wiki without spoilers for a book, go to the Time Machine! He was born to a noble and a skaa mother, a fact that would have her killed due to the illegitimacy of it. The people who agree with it will simply agree. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. [66] This book proved vital in solving the case of Bleeder. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. All I want is for somebody to clarify what your theory actually is. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. Later on, we follow Kelsier having a conversation with Sazed on the events that had happened, the lack of Metalborn, and Sazed's inability to act. When Marasi Colms discovers an agent of the Ghostbloods, Moonlight, she manages to convince her to take Marasi to a warehouse in Bilming to aid in the fight against the Set. You seem to want to shut down theories that are too complex for you to understand. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. In the event of his death, Kelsier ordered his kandra, OreSeur, to ingest his remains, masquerading as a resurrected holy figure. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. Harmony(fka Sazed): Harmony holds the shards of Ruin AND Preservation, and as such is (one of the) god(s) of Scadrial. Ive done my best to include things that I think youll need to know going into the next book. [14][21][27], Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. the original post says a lot: Are you asking if the rebels were influencedby Ruin? While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. [76], I don't want to be responsible for something happening to you, Vin. A natural leader, Kelsier used his charismatic personality to draw skilled and loyal Mistings to his own crew and eventually to lead a rebel army. Marsh is aware of Kelsiers current activities as a Cognitive Shadow. And for all of you who feel the theory doesnt have a point, you can just stop posting. . Yes, he's really dead. The Bands of Mourning follows our group of heroes as they begin a quest to find the titular Bands of Mourning, a legendary and extraordinarily powerful artifact. He infiltrated the Steel Inquisitors, and is one of the few remaining characters from the original trilogy who is alive. He also appears to be the only remaining Mistborn thanks to Hemalurgy. Hmmm, he was flat on the ground from the Lord Rulers hit when he was stabbed. The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. Though, in my opinion, I dunno if Ruin would try to forcethe Lord Ruler to kill Kelsier. Mare joined him there a few months later. Think of this article as one of those Last time on recaps at the beginning of a television show. Now lets talk a bit more in depth about Kelsier, and what hes been up to. With the garrison gone and the nobility weakened by the war, the rest of the army then could take over Luthadel. Worship. Even though that is the OP, it would also be good to know where the discussion has evolved too, cause I am confused by that too. As such, I wont be delving into every plot and character nuanceonly the ones which are likely to be relevant toThe Lost Metal. I worried about doing this, actually, since it seemed a little too expected. "Everything I learn is just another tool for the tool box", -Kelsier, the Tool's Bible (citation needed). Uncanonically, Brandon imagines Kelsier as using a Seon in a trench coat as his 'avatar'. Will it be revealed to be the Big Bad of the series after all? In the meantime, keep an eye out for a non-spoiler review of The Lost Metal coming up next week. Marsh, who was also in love with Mare, came to resent Kelsier for winning her love and for constantly outshadowing him with his frivolty. Later, Kelsier invited a team of the best thieves in the city to a gathering in Camon's safe house. Prior to one of the executions, Kelsier attacks the carriages transporting the victims and frees them, killing a Steel Inquisitor in the process. The "Survivor's Statemark" is one of the symbols of the faith. if TLR was spiked? He teamed up with the escaped Plantation skaa Dockson and the Tineye Mare, whom he married. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. What are you saying? [78][34] At the time of meeting, he saw Kelsier as a wild card that he didn't want to deal with. It was Mare who gave Kelsier a drawing of a flower, a remnant of a time before ash clouded the sky and plants grew withered and brown. On its relevancy, just because it has spawned a discussion does not make it relevant to the present and futureCosmere. At Fadrex he convinces Vin to flee when he sees Hoid. [20] He nicknamed him Fuzz, due to his unraveled appearance. In retaliation, the Lord Ruler executes numerous skaa in public demonstrations. [62], You can say what you wish, but you don't own me. After testing her ability to burn multiple metals, Kelsier concludes that Vin was in fact a Mistborn. Kelsier, famously known as the Survivor of Hathsin, is a powerful Mistborn and one of the main characters in Mistborn: The Final Empire . The Inquisitor and some soliders followed Camon to find his hideout to wipe out his crew, but Kelsier lured the Inquisitor away by using his own Allomancy while Dockson took out the soldiers. TheManKnownAsHoid, August 2, 2018. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. He also has medallions which grant him Allomantic abilities. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. In fact, Im far more than just a mild annoyance. [22][23] Perhaps as a result of his egotism and arrogance, several of his plans involve setting himself up as a powerful, mysterious, or even divine figure. Kelsier held Preservation for a short time but was bad at using it because he was a Cognitive Shadow at the time and did not match well with Preservation's Intent. Kelsier knocked out Camon with Steelpushes and gave control over the crew to Milev. Theres always another secret, but well have answers to some as of November 15th! First released in 2006, Mistborn currently emcompasses six books, the most recent one having been released in 2016. [51], From the Well of Ascension, of course. He feels guilty for abandoning her but does his best to help her. [13], Kelsier is a psychopath,[14] or at least has some psychopathic tendencies. I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. Also, you talked about, as I mentioned, how you want to discuss this theory. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. The two of them have a strained relationship. But were talking about the Lord Ruler, and he was standing up the whole time. Batman, the most legendary mistborn himself. His best friend, Dockson, helps him follow up on Marsh's reports of a skaa with known Allomantic powers. Dustbringer also fits because of the theme of self mastery and pushing himself. . Kelsier let Vin jump over the city walls as an exercise for steel and iron and was surprised how voluntarily she did it, remembering his own training. This severely angered Kelsier and crushed morale within his crew, making them feel that they wouldn't be needed now that the army had been slaughtered. [68] After Marasi solved the riddle of the Bands and wielded it to escape the Set, she gave it to Wax, who wielded it and became incredibly powerful. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. Wax thinks that he might have connections to the Set. The protagonists find a temple to a man they assume is the Lord Ruler, in which is stored the allomantic and feruchemic Bands. This is why I love Brandon. Speaking of the Set. Kelsier authorizes the engagement of all agents in Elendel to help in any way possible, and has Twinsoul and Moonlight accompany Marasi to Autonomy's army from marching into Scadrial. [24] After his death, OreSeur takes his bones and appears before several groups of skaa, making them believe that Kelsier survived somehow. As of the end of TheBands of Mourning, it is believed by the characters that the goal of the Set is to begin a civil war to overthrow Elendel. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. Vin paused at her thoughts. [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. Kelsier was then trained by a Mistborn named Gemmel[37] and they traveled to the far north of the Western Dominance to a city called Mantiz where Kelsier fought and killed the Mistborn Antillius Shezler. Like a way to copy that little bit of spiritweb, so the spike can be removed or, god forbid, reused. [25], Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. Without a Physical aspect, his powers failed. [48] He ultimately only took a glass orb from them after thwarting their plan to take over become the Vessel of Preservation after Leras' death. He connects us to his characters. Allegedly dead as of the end of TheBands of Mourning, but heyits a Cosmere novel, who knows? Wax, Wayne, and Marasi work together to take down Miles Hundredlives, a compound bloodmaker who has been kidnapping women and stealing aluminum for a shadowy organization called The Set. At the end of the book, the kidnapped women are still missing, Miles is executed, and Wax discovers that his uncle Edwarn, whod been presumed dead, is actually alive and a member of the Set. Legacy continues to influence people all across the five dominances can just stop posting over Vin a. 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